President Barack Obama on Health Care Death Panels
This is from April and August 2009.
From April 29, 2009 see Bloomberg article by Hans Nichols at http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aGrKbfWkzTqc
"Obama Says Grandmother’s Hip Replacement Raises Cost Questions"
■ "President Barack Obama said his grandmother’s hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a 'sustainable' model” for health care."
■ "Obama said 'you just get into some very difficult moral issues' when considering whether 'to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill'."
See New York Times April 28, 2009 "After the Great Recession" article by David Leonhardt see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/magazine/03Obama-t.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
President Barack Obama said:
■ "So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right? I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here."
■ "Well, I think that there is going to have to be a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the country making those decisions just through the normal political channels. And that’s part of why you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It’s not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that’s part of what I suspect you’ll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now."
From August 2009 at http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/08/11/a-debate-we-didn-t-have-to-have.aspx
■ "Gee, where could the misinformed town hall crazies have gotten the idea that Obama was thinking about saving money by denying expensive procedures toward the end of life?
From April 29, 2009 see Bloomberg article by Hans Nichols at http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aGrKbfWkzTqc
"Obama Says Grandmother’s Hip Replacement Raises Cost Questions"
■ "President Barack Obama said his grandmother’s hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a 'sustainable' model” for health care."
■ "Obama said 'you just get into some very difficult moral issues' when considering whether 'to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill'."
See New York Times April 28, 2009 "After the Great Recession" article by David Leonhardt see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/magazine/03Obama-t.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all
President Barack Obama said:
■ "So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right? I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here."
■ "Well, I think that there is going to have to be a conversation that is guided by doctors, scientists, ethicists. And then there is going to have to be a very difficult democratic conversation that takes place. It is very difficult to imagine the country making those decisions just through the normal political channels. And that’s part of why you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It’s not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that’s part of what I suspect you’ll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now."
From August 2009 at http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/kausfiles/archive/2009/08/11/a-debate-we-didn-t-have-to-have.aspx
■ "Gee, where could the misinformed town hall crazies have gotten the idea that Obama was thinking about saving money by denying expensive procedures toward the end of life?
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